1-14-2013- PATRISTIC QUOTATIONS FROM AD DAYS "PART 2"


"REMARKS"

THE FOLLOWING IS A CONTINUATION OF PART 2 OF PATRISTIC QUOTATIONS FROM AD DAYS. THERE IS SO MUCH IT WILL MORE THAN LIKELY BE MADE UP OF SOME 10 PARTS OR SO. I FIND THESE QUOTATIONS TO BE POWERFUL, BECAUSE EVEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CHURCH, THESE QUOTATIONS SHOW THE GOOD AND THE BAD.


*************CONTINUATION OF "CHURCH"*************


"ADDITIONS OF OTHER PEOPLES HAIR, (WIGS), ARE ENTIRELY TO BE REJECTED AND IT IS A MOST SACRILEGIOUS THING FOR SPURIOUS HAIR TO SHADE THE HEAD, COVERING THE SKULL WITH DEAD LOCKS. FOR ON WHOM DOES THE PRESBYTER LAY HIS HAND? WHOM DOES HE BLESS? NOT THE WOMAN DECKED OUT, BUT ANOTHER WOMAN'S HAIR AND THROUGH THEM ANOTHER HEAD."

"CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA"


"THE MORE OLD AGE STRIVES TO CONCEAL ITSELF, THE MORE IT WILL BE DETECTED. THIS, THEN, IS YOUR IDEA OF TRUE ETERNITY, HAIR THAT IS EVER YOUNG. THIS IS THE INCORRUPTIBILITY WHICH WE HAVE TO PUT ON, FOR THE NEW HOUSE OF THE LORD, ONE GUARANTEED BY COSMETICS."

"TERTULLIAN"


"IN AMPLIFYING HIS LAW, GOD MAKES NO DISTINCTION OF PENALTY BETWEEN LUST AND FORNICATION, AND IT WILL SCARCELY BE THAT THEY ESCAPE PUNISHMENT, WHO HAVE BEEN TO ANOTHER THE CAUSE OF PERDITION. THAT OTHER, AS SOON AS **HE HAS LUSTED AFTER YOUR BEAUTY, AND IN HIS MIND COMMITTED THE LUSTFUL ACT, PERISHES,** AND **YOU HAVE BEEN MADE THE SWORD OF HIS DESTRUCTION**."

*TERTULLIAN*


"THE LESS YOU TROUBLE TO PLEASE OTHER MEN, THE MORE YOU WILL PLEASE THEM."

*TERTULLIAN*


************************CONDEMNATION****************


"EVERY SINNER IS INEXCUSABLE, BE HE A SINNER BY ORIGINAL GUILT, OR BY ADDITIONAL GUILT OF HIS OWN WILL, WHETHER HE KNOWS OR NOT, WHETHER HE JUDGES OR NOT; FOR IGNORANCE ITSELF IN THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO KNOW, IS WITHOUT DOUBT A SIN AND IN THOSE WHO ARE UNABLE TO KNOW, IT IS THE PENALTY OF SIN. IN NEITHER CASE, THEN, IS THERE A JUST EXCUSE; BUT IN BOTH CASES, THERE IS JUST CONDEMNATION."

*AUGUSTINE*


*************************CONFESSION*********************


"CONFESSION IS NOT ALWAYS CONFESSION OF SINS, BUT THE PRAISE OF GOD IS POURED FORTH, IN THE DEVOTION OF CONFESSION. THE FORMER MOURNS, THE LATTER REJOICES; THE FORMER SHOWS THE WOUND TO THE PHYSICIAN, THE LATTER GIVES THANKS FOR HEALTH."

*AUGUSTINE*


"THERE IS NO CONFESSION IN THE PLACE OF THE DEPARTED."

*CYPRIAN*


"CONFESSION OF SIN, MERITS THE REMISSION OF SIN. FOR IF WE PRECEDE, THE DEVIL IN MAKING OUR ACCUSATION, HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCUSE US. IF WE BECOME OUR OWN ACCUSERS, IT PROFITS US TO SALVATION."

*ORIGEN*


 "BE CAREFUL AND CIRCUMSPECT IN REGARD TO WHOM YOU WOULD CONFESS YOUR SINS. TEST FIRST, THE PHYSICIAN TO WHOM YOU WOULD EXPOSE THE CAUSE OF YOUR ILLNESS."

*ORIGEN*


"GOD DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT WE COME FORWARD PUBLICLY, TO TELL OUT OUR FAULTS. HE BUT COMMANDS US TO MAKE OUR EXPLANATION TO HIM ALONE, AND TO CONFESS TO HIM...........HE BOTH FORGIVES THE SIN AND DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT IT BE PARADED BEFORE AN AUDIENCE. ONE THING ONLY DOES HE SEEK; THAT THE PERSON ENJOYING THIS FORGIVENESS, LEARN THE GREATNESS OF THE GIFT, HE HAS RECEIVED."

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


"DO YOU CONFESS THEM TO A FELLOW SERVANT, SUCH AS MIGHT MAKE THEM PUBLIC? NO! YOU EXPOSE YOUR WOUND TO THE MASTER, TO THE GUARDIAN, TO THE BENEFACTOR OF MANKIND, TO THE PHYSICIAN."

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


"DO NOT PUT YOUR SIN BEHIND YOU, OR GOD WILL PUT IT IN FRONT OF YOU."

*AUGUSTINE*


**************************CONTEMPLATION************


"THE ACTIVE LIFE, IS THE JOURNEYING; THE CONTEMPLATIVE IS THE SUMMIT. THE FORMER, MAKES A MAN HOLY; THE LATTER, MAKES HIM PERFECT. IT IS CHARACTERISTIC OF THE ACTIVE LIFE, TO INFLICT INJURIES ON NO ONE; OF THE CONTEMPLATIVE, TO BEAR INFLICTED INJURIES CALMLY. NAY, TO STATE THIS MORE PRECISELY, ONE WHO FULFILLS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ACTIVE LIFE, IS PROMPT TO FORGIVE THE MAN WHO HAS SINNED AGAINST HIM; ONE WHO FOLLOWS THE CONTEMPLATIVE LIFE, IS PREPARED RATHER, NOT TO NOTICE, THAN TO PARDON THE OFFENCES.....THE FORMER, CONTROLS ANGER, BY VIRTUE OF PATIENCE; PLACES THE BRIDLE OF MODERATION ON UNRESTRAINED PASSION'S; IS TOUCHED BY CARNAL DESIRE, BUT DOES NOT CONSENT.....IS SHAKEN BY THE ATTACKS OF THE DEVIL, BUT IS NOT OVERCOME.....THE FOLLOWERS OF THE CONTEMPLATIVE LIFE BY HOLY VIRTUES, OVERCOMES ALL FEELINGS, WHICH VARIOUSLY AFFECT THE LIFE OF MORTALS; FREE FROM ALL DESIRES AND DISTURBANCES, HE ENJOYS BLESSED QUIET; AND, BEING MADE SUPERIOR TO HIS TEMPTATIONS AND PASSIONS, BY REASON OF HIS UNTRAMMELED MIND, HE IS RAISED ON HIGH BY THE INDESCRIBABLE JOY, OF DIVINE CONTEMPLATION."

*JULIAN POMERIUS* 


"IT IS THOSE WHO ARE PERFECT AND PURIFIED, FROM ALL FAULTS, WHO OUGHT TO SEEK THE DESERT, AND WHEN THEY HAVE THOROUGHLY EXTERMINATED ALL THEIR FAULTS, AMID THE ASSEMBLY OF THE BRETHREN, THEY SHOULD ENTER THE DESERT NOT, BY WAY OF COWARDLY FLIGHT, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF DIVINE CONTEMPLATION AND WITH THE DESIRE OF DEEPER INSIGHT INTO HEAVENLY THINGS, WHICH CAN ONLY BE GAINED IN SOLITUDE."

*JOHN CASSIAN*


"IF A MAN KNOWS NOT GOD, AND KNOWS NOT THE THINGS OF GOD, HE KNOWS NOT, WHAT THINGS HE HAS NEED OF: FOR THE THINGS WHICH HE THINKS HE HAS NEED OF, ARE ENTIRELY WRONG. ON THE OTHER HAND, HE WHO CONTEMPLATES WHAT HIGHER AND HOLIER THING HE LACKS, WILL ATTAIN TO OBJECTS OF HIS CONTEMPLATION, WHICH ARE KNOWN BY GOD AND HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO THE FATHER, OR EVER THE REQUEST WAS MADE."

*ORIGEN*


***************************COURAGE************************


"STAND FIRM, AS DOES AN ANVIL WHICH IS BEATEN."

*IGNATIUS*


`"CHRIST'S SOLDIER MARCHES ON THROUGH GOOD REPORT......NO PRAISE ELATES HIM, NO REPROACHES CRUSH HIM. HE IS NOT PUFFED UP BY RICHES, NOR DOES HE SHRINK INTO HIMSELF, BECAUSE OF POVERTY."

*JEROME*


*************************CREATION**************************


"TWO TEACHERS, THEN, ARE GIVEN YOU FROM THE BEGINNING; CREATION AND CONSCIENCE. NEITHER OF THEM HAS A VOICE TO SPEAK OUT; YET, THEY TEACH MEN IN SILENCE."

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


"OTHERS CONSTRUCT THE WHOLE FABRIC OF THEN UNIVERSE BY CHANCE ACCIDENTS, AND BY RANDOM COLLISION, AND FASHION IT BY THE CONCOURSE OF ATOMS, OF THE DIFFERENT SHAPES; WITH WHOM WE BY NO MEANS, INTEND TO ENTER........ON A DISCUSSION OF SUCH PERVERSE CONVICTIONS......TO ARGUE AGAINST THINGS PALPABLY FOOLISH, IS A MARK OF GREAT FOLLY."

*ARNOBIUS*


"SOME PEOPLE READ BOOKS IN ORDER TO FIND GOD. YET, THERE IS A GREAT BOOK, THE VERY APPEARANCE OF CREATED THINGS. LOOK ABOVE YOU; LOOK BELOW YOU! NOTE IT; READ IT; GOD, WHOM YOU WISH TO FIND, NEVER WROTE THAT BOOK WITH INK. INSTEAD, HE SET BEFORE YOUR EYES, THE THINGS THAT HE HAS MADE. CAN YOU ASK FOR A LOUDER VOICE THAN THAT? WHY, HEAVEN AND EARTH CRY OUT TO YOU, GOD MADE ME."

*AUGUSTINE*


*************CREED-DOCTRINE-THEOLOGY***


"CREED IS A GREAT AMOUNT OF MATTER, IN A FEW WORDS AND OFTEN , FOR THE BETTER UNDERSTANDING, DESIGNATING AN OLD ARTICLE OF THE FAITH, BY THE CHARACTERISTIC OF A NEW NAME,

*VINCENT OF LERINS*


"WE ARE COMPELLED TO ATTEMPT WHAT IS UNATTAINABLE, TO CLIMB WHERE WE CANNOT REACH, TO SPEAK WHAT WE CANNOT UTTER. INSTEAD OF THE BARE ADORATION OF FAITH, WE ARE COMPELLED TO ENTRUST THE DEEP THINGS OF RELIGION TO THE PERILS OF HUMAN EXPRESSION."

*HILARY OF POITIERS*


"THEOLOGY DISPOSES US TO DESPISE HAPPILY, ALL THIS LIFE'S FRIENDSHIPS, BY GIVING US THE IDEA OF REPLACING EARTHLY DESIRES, WITH THE INEFFABLE RICHES OF THE WORD OF GOD."

*DIODICUS*


"IT IS EVIDENT THAT ALL DOCTRINE WHICH AGREES WITH THOSE APOSTOLIC CHURCHES, THE WOMBS AND ORIGINS OF THE FAITH, MUST BE RECKONED FOR TRUTH, AS UNDOUBTEDLY CONTAINING WHAT THE CHURCHES RECEIVED FROM THE APOSTLES, THE APOSTLES FROM CHRIST AND CHRIST FROM GOD."

*TERTULLIAN*


"THE CHURCH OF CHRIST, ZEALOUS AND CAUTIOUS OF THE DOGMAS DEPOSITED WITH IT, NEVER CHANGES ANY PHASE OF THEM. IT DOES NOT DIMINSH THEM, NOR ADD TO THEM; IT NEITHER TRIMS WHAT SEEMS NECESSARY, NOR GRAFTS THINGS SUPERFLUOUS."

*VINCENT OF LERINS*


"IT IS RIGHT THAT THOSE ANCIENT DOCTRINES OF HEAVENLY PHILOSOPHY SHOULD, AS TIME GOES ON, BE CARED FOR, SMOOTHED, POLISHED; BUT NOT THAT THEY SHOULD BE CHANGED, NOT THAT THEY SHOULD BE MAIMED, NOT THAT THEY SHOULD BE MUTILATED."

*VINCENT OF LERINS*


******************************CROSS**************************


"ALL KINGS WHEN THEY DIE, HAVE THEIR POWER EXTINGUISHED WITH THEIR LIFE: BUT CHRIST CRUCIFIED, IS WORSHIPED BY THE WHOLE WORLD. WE PROCLAIM THE "CRUCIFIED", AND THE DEVILS TREMBLE."

*CYRIL OF JERUSALEM*


"THE SUN WAS DARKENED BECAUSE OF THE SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. ROCKS WERE RENT, BECAUSE OF THE SPIRITUAL ROCK. TOMBS WERE OPENED AND THE DEAD AROSE, BECAUSE OF HIM, WHO WAS FREE AMONG THE DEAD."

*CYRIL OF JERUSALEM*


"SINCE IT WAS THROUGH A TREE, WE LOST THE LOGOS IN PARADISE, IT WAS THROUGH A TREE AGAIN, THAT THE LOGOS, WAS MADE MANIFEST TO ALL, WHEN HE SHOWED IN HIMSELF THE LENGTH, THE HEIGHT, THE DEPTH, AND THE BREADTH; AND AS ONE OF THE OLDEST CHRISTIANS SAID, HE GATHERED TOGETHER THE TWO PEOPLE INTO ONE, GOD BY STRETCHING OUT BOTH HANDS."

*IRENEUS*


"IF ANY DISBELIEVE THE POWER OF THE CRUCIFIED, LET HIM ASK THE DEVILS, IF ANY BELIEVE NOT WORDS, LET HIM BELIEVE WHAT HE SEES. MANY HAVE BEEN CRUCIFIED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, BUT BY NONE OF THESE ARE THE DEVILS SCARED; BUT WHEN THEY SEE EVEN THE SIGN OF THE CROSS OF CHRIST, WHO WAS CRUCIFIED FOR US, THEY SHUDDER."

*CYRIL OF JERUSALEM*


********************HOLY COMMUNION***************


"WE OUGHT NOT TO SUSPEND OURSELVES FROM THE LORDS COMMUNION BECAUSE WE CONFESS OURSELVES SINNERS, BUT SHOULD MORE AND MORE EAGERLY, HASTEN TO IT FOR THE HEALING OF OUR SOUL."

*JOHN CASSIAN*


"HE DOES NOT COMMAND THAT ONE IS TO BE EXAMINED BY ANOTHER, BUT EACH IS TO EXAMINE HIMSELF, MAKING THE COURTROOM SECRET AND THE TRIAL UN-WITNESSED."

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


"ALL THE SACRAMENTS, WHILE THEY ARE INJURIOUS TO THOSE WHO ADMINISTER THEM UNWORTHILY, ARE BENEFICIAL TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE THEM UN-WORTHILY."

*AUGUSTINE*


**********************THE HOLY SPIRIT****************


"THE SON OF GOD POURED FORTH THE GIFT HE RECEIVED FROM THE FATHER: THE HOLY SPIRIT, THIRD NAME OF THE DIVINITY, THE THIRD DEGREE OF MAJESTY, THE PRO-CLAIMER OF THE ONE RULERSHIP, THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE VARIOUS BRANCHES OF THE HOUSEHOLD."

*TERTULLIAN*


"iF HE IS GIVEN, IF HE IS RECEIVED, IF HE IS RETAINED, THEN OBVIOUSLY HE EXISTS."

*HILARY OF POITIERS*


"IF ANYONE DOES NOT SAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS TRULY AND PROPERLY OF THE FATHER, JUST AS THE SON, OF THE DIVINE SUBSTANCE AND TRUE GOD: HE IS A HERETIC."

*DAMASUS*


"IF EVER THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE FATHER WAS NOT, THEN THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE SON WAS NOT. IF EVER THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE SON WAS NOT, THEN THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS NOT. IF THE ONE WAS FROM THE BEGINNING, THEN THE THREE WERE SO TOO."

*GREGORY OF NAZIANZUS*


"WE KNOW THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE GIFT OF GOD, THE GIFT BEING HIMSELF INDEED, EQUAL TO THE GIVER."

*AUGUSTINE*


"HE, THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS THE GIFT OF GOD, SO WE MAY BELIEVE THAT GOD DOES NOT GIVE A GIFT, INFERIOR TO HIMSELF."

*AUGUSTINE*


"WHO WOULD DARE TO SAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SEPARATED FROM THE FATHER AND CHRIST, WHEN IT IS THROUGH HIM, THE HOLY SPIRIT, THAT WE ATTAIN TO THE IMAGE AND THE LIKENESS OF GOD, AND THROUGH HIM THAT......WE BECOME PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE."

*AMBROSE OF MILAN*


"KNOW YOU THAT EVERY MAN IS EITHER EMPTY, OR FULL. FOR IF HE HAS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT, HE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE CREATOR; HE HAS NOT RECEIVED JESUS CHRIST, THE LIFE."

*IRENAEUS*


"THE SIN WHICH SHALL NEVER BE FORGIVEN, IS NOT THE BLASPHEMY OF MEN, DIS-EMBOWELLED BY TORTURE, WHO IN THEIR AGONY DENY THE LORD, BUT IT IS THE CAPTIOUS CLAMOR OF THOSE WHOM, WHILE THEY SEE GODS WORKS ARE THE FRUIT OF VIRTUE, ASCRIBE THE VIRTUE TO A DEMON, AND DECLARE THE SIGNS WORKED, TO BELONG NOT TO THE DIVINE EXCELLENCE, BUT TO THE DEVIL."

*JEROME*


*************************HOMOSEXUALITY*************


"ALL OTHER FRENZIES OF PASSIONS-----IMPIOUS BOTH TOWARD THE BODIES AND TOWARD THE SEXES---BEYOND THE LAWS OF NATURE, WE BANISH NOT ONLY FROM THE THRESHOLD, BUT FROM ALL SHELTER OF THE CHURCH, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SINS, BUT MONSTROSITIES."

*TERTULLAIN*


"AS FAR AS SEX IS CONCERNED, THE CHRISTIAN IS CONTENT WITH THE WOMAN."

*TERTULLIAN*


"TO DEFILERS OF BOYS, COMMUNION IS NOT TO BE GIVEN, EVEN AT DEATH."

*THE COUNCIL OF ELVIRA*


************************************HOPE***********************



"WHAT THEN IS HOPE? CONFIDENCE IN THINGS TO COME."

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


"HOPE......IS COMPARED TO AN EGG. FOR HOPE HAS NOT YET ARRIVED AT ATTAINMENT; AND AN EGG IS SOMETHING, BUT NOT YET THE CHICKEN."

*AUGUSTINE*


"THERE WILL NO LONGER BE HOPE, WHEN THE REALITY WILL BE PRESENT."

*AUGUSTINE*


***************************HUMILITY*************************



"HUMILITY IS THE ROOT, MOTHER, NURSE, FOUNDATION, AND BOND OF ALL VIRTUE.

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


"FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LEARN GODS WAYS, HUMILITY IS THE FIRST THING, HUMILITY IS THE SECOND, HUMILITY IS THE THIRD."

*AUGUSTINE*


"IT WAS PRIDE THAT CHANGED ANGELS INTO DEVILS; IT IS HUMILITY, THAT MAKES MEN, AS ANGELS."

*AUGUSTINE*


"AS IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO GO INTO BATTLE NAKED, OR TO SWIM A GREAT SEA FULLY CLOTHED, OR TO LIVE WITHOUT BREATHING, SO WITHOUT HUMILITY AND CONSTANT SUPPLICATION TO CHRIST, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO LEARN THE SECRET WAR OF THE MIND."

*HESYCHIUS OF JERUSALEM*


"AS PRIDE WAS THE BEGINNING OF SIN, SO, HUMILITY MUST BE THE BEGINNING OF THE CHRISTIAN DISCIPLINE."

*AUGUSTINE*


"IF WE BEHAVE LIKE LAMBS, WE ARE VICTORIOUS; EVEN THOUGH TEN THOUSAND WOLVES SHOULD HEM US IN, WE SURVIVE AND OVERCOME; FOR THE HELP OF THE SHEPHERD IS WITHDRAWN FROM US. FOR HE IS THE SHEPHERD OF THE SHEEP, AND NOT WOLVES."

*JOHN CHRYSOSTOM*


********************HYPOCRISY****************************



"HE PROFESSES HIMSELF TO BE A CHRISTIAN, IN SUCH A WAY AS THE DEVIL OFTEN FEIGNS HIMSELF, TO BE CHRIST."

*CYPRIAN*